What is the ideal no mither build? (2025)

joker7997 Member Posts: 899

October 2019

Nikkiwhat Member Posts: 1,378

October 2019

If you MUST use it, my recommendation.

No Mither

Iron Will

Dead Hard

Spine Chill

Spooky13 Member Posts: 1,471

October 2019

Self Care and Botany Knowledge with a purple and red instaheal on a purple medkit.

But for real, don't use it, you can't even get the benefit of picking yourself up because they know you can. If you have to, Dead Hard is a must, along with Iron Will to make yourself silent, and either Unbreakable or Tenacity to pick yourself up faster is they decide for whatever reason to slug you.

October 2019

No Mither

Dead Hard

Decisive Strike

Resilience

Toolbox.

October 2019 edited October 2019

MrsMaliciousX Member Posts: 736

October 2019

No mither

self care

adrenaline

the rock perk

YOU'RE WELCOME :D

October 2019

Close, I would replace adrenaline with fixated.

🙃

AshleyWB Member Posts: 4,061

October 2019

I've been running No Mither, Inner strength, Mettle of Man and Deliverance.

Whenever I get deliverance active I've been kobeing instantly off the hook immediately after being put on it.

I just figured might as well do it to slow down how fast I regain my rank. Don't want try hard sweaty killers or good killers for the event. I've still been pipping, got up to rank 8 after rank reset took me down to 11

MrsMaliciousX Member Posts: 736

October 2019

then you gotta be a wiggle worm!!! its great :')

darktrix Member Posts: 1,790

October 2019

This guy beat me to it. All No Mither does it make you a prime target to the killer.

I die a little bit inside when I join a pack of randoms and one or more has No Mither - cause 99% of the time they suck in a chase and will probably kill themselves on first hook.

53nation Member Posts: 681

October 2019

Nikkiwhat Member Posts: 1,378

October 2019

Gonna apologize ahead of time,,totally doing Adept David xD expect some No Mithering Potato'ing from me. I'm decent at chases, but not enough to really pull off a No Mither ego build

thrawn3054 Member Posts: 5,897

October 2019

I've seen a build where they use.

No Mither

Unbreakable.

Sabotage.

Dead Hard.

With a full sabotage toolbox. You create hook dead zones. It's a gimmick build. But will get alot of hate.

Maelstrom10 Member Posts: 1,922

October 2019

No mither, resilience, dead hard and a choice of either iron will, unbreakable or tenacity.

Iron will despite no mither making you quieter silences you completely which is always useful, unbreakable allows you to pick yourself up faster if you are ever slugged with no mither on which is rare mind you (but will give killers less time to leave you on the ground then is expected.) Tenacity will allow you to get into a better position if ever slugged.

Sabotage and a sabotaging tool box can allow you to create temporary dead zones of hooks which can be useful but is somewhat map dependant and hard to pull off without a team.

Resilience is a constant 9% buff to everything. Vaulting, gens, healing others etc. This is not happening makes great skill checks easier.

No mither is a difficult perk and harms more then it helps on occasion. But against a plague or a legion? It does nothing but help. Spine chill is incredibly helpful as well as it will help against a stealth killer sneaking up and one shotting you unconditionally.

WickedKatz Member Posts: 238

October 2019

The only effective build is Unhookable, but only works on a swf. You gotta have alex's toolboxes, Dead Hard, Tenacity and Flip Flop. It is pretty op because the killer cant hook anybody and can only slug, but with no mither you just get back up

Hoodied Member Posts: 13,019

October 2019

Thasard Member Posts: 268

October 2019

Survive...

Seriously though, rank reset is the perfect time as you will likely get paired with a bad killer that you and your team can work together to escape from.

Bring a key for the hatch, or a massive toolbox to help your team gen rush.

But, yeah, survive...which can literally be done perkless so at least you'll have the three to play with.

MrDardon Member Posts: 3,942

October 2019

Aven_Fallen Member Posts: 16,105

October 2019

No Mither (obviously)

Iron Will (because No Mither is too bad at lowering your Grunts of Pain, so you need Iron Will as well... You cannot really go on chases, so be as stealthy as possible)

Dead Hard (when it is not bugged...)

DS (because it might happen that you get tunneled again, because you are an easy target)

GrootDude Member Posts: 14,110

October 2019

Theoretical_Heart Member Posts: 398

October 2019

The best no mither build is to not use it.

But if you insist the at least run kindred since you'll be on the hook all match.

Yung_Slug Member Posts: 2,238

October 2019

No Mither

Resilience - Faster repair speed and vault speed

Spine chill - Faster repair speed and vault speed, knowledge of the killer's whereabouts.

Dead Hard - Extend chases, helps compensate for being downed in one hit.

You could replace Dead Hard with Iron Will for a stealthier playstyle.

Resilience and Spine Chill allow you to have max vault speed, which will save you from more hits than you'd expect. It also allows you to run infinites on certain tiles, especially if the killer keeps going for hits that they would normally be able to land.

OMagic_ManO Member Posts: 3,278

October 2019

No Mither

Resilience

Dead Hard

Decisive Strike

Replace Resilience if you want Iron Will.

HeyZeus Member Posts: 14

October 2019

October 2019

There are three main ways to do No Mither. Stealth, Gen Jockey or Dumbass

Stealth Build:

* No Mither, Iron Will, Urban Evasion, then either Bond or Spine Chill

Gen Jockey:

* No Mither, Resilience, Prove Thyself, then either Bond or Spine Chill (Spine Chill preferred)

Dumb Ass Build:

* No Mither, Tenacity, Unbreakable, then either Flip Flop or DS

yadielrodriguez Member Posts: 515

February 2020

I say NM Resilence Breakdown and Boil over or different exhausted perk than DH.

yadielrodriguez Member Posts: 515

February 2020

Most perks you say suck like bond.

RakimSockem Member Posts: 1,989

February 2020

No Mither

Self Care

Inner Strength

Second Wind

Med-kit with pink add on

All of that is just to emphasize how shite No Mither is and how it should never be used outside of getting an achievement or challenge done until the devs give it the 2x bloodpoint boost it deserves.

dont_ask_me_again Member Posts: 490

February 2020

The best one but it got nerfed:

Dead Hard (nerfed)

No Mither (nerfed against oni?)

Object of Obsession (nerfed)

Saboteur (nerfed)

All the perks worked with each other + there’s all the survivor nerfs.

Chatkovski Member Posts: 309

February 2020

As already said, the ideal is not to use it.

However I also read some suggest Iron Will, but in the description of No Mither it is written: Grunts of Pain caused by injuries are reduced by 0/25/50% AT ANY TIME.

I always thought that this "at any time" meant that it couldn't be changed by another perk like Iron Will, so isn't it? What does "at any time" really mean?

Crimbojambo Member Posts: 82

February 2020 edited February 2020

Play defensively, don't make gambles. Or...y'know, be good at chases.

Carpemortum Member Posts: 4,506

February 2020

Lol a necro and bad logic.

Bond doesnt suck. It let's me know when someone is leading the killer to me.

DWolfAlpha Member Posts: 927

February 2020

Exerlin Member Posts: 1,352

February 2020 edited February 2020

I like to run it with Resilience, Spine Chill, and either Sprint Burst or Dead Hard. Resilience makes you faster at gens and other things, Spine Chill helps counter stealth killers, which are awful to face with No Mither, and SB or DH give you a bit more survivability in dead zones and chases respectively. You also benefit from +15% vault speed with Resilience and Spine Chill, so it's a pretty decent build imo

Edit: Wait, who the ######### necro'd this ancient thread

yadielrodriguez Member Posts: 515

February 2020

See that is a great build.

yadielrodriguez Member Posts: 515

February 2020

This is 2020 survivors are more selfish now so I use solo great build where piss the killer off and bond like really who wanna see survivor like it a waste it don't help you to survive same go for emphaty.

CrassardStreams Member Posts: 179

February 2020

Any build with decisive strike is going to have a pretty easy game, No Mither means they can't slug you to avoid the stun (so does unbreakable but meh)

No Mither, Decisive Strike, Resilience, Tenacity or Iron Will.

miahelloiloveyu Member Posts: 3

February 2020 edited February 2020

I wouldn't use dead hard. It doesn't work a lot of the time and its too risky to rely on for a loop extension.

No Mither

This Is Not Happening

Resilience

Iron Will

I escaped every game I used this build on today. I really only use it to get the great skill check challenge done quick, so definitely swap out this is not happening for something like spine chill for either extra stealth or to double down on the vault boost during chase along with the resilience.

February 2020

No Mither, Dead Hard, Decisive, and Alert.

Alert is a great perk that helps you stay hidden from the killer.

Mooshroome64 Member Posts: 105

February 2020 edited February 2020

I think it's just leftover text from when Iron Will used to only work when standing still at certain tiers - it wasn't default that perks making grunts quieter applied all the time so they had to state it specifically in the description.

Edit: and also I think no mither reduces sound in dying state which Iron Will does not.

February 2020

At any time only applies to that perk, it does not include bringing Iron Will 3.

Aneurysm Member Posts: 5,270

February 2020

No mither

Object of obsession

Urban evasion

Sprint burst

Urban evade around staring at the killer the whole time, run away when they get near and repeat.